Animator cries at low pay

July 1, 2009

 

1 Name : Presenter  JSGFLSFOXQ @Presenter : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:02:09 ID:???0

<Hall of Fame Animation> field production says “spend more money for education of animator than buiding like this”

Is the <Hall of Fame Animation> neccessary? The plan to construct hall is criticized. Actually the hall will be named as “Media Art General Centre”. The Japanese government thought that the Japanese Animation and Game culture which are well known at overseas as high quality must be provided much more, and they aim at to appeal more by the hall.
But depressing Japanese Animation Industry is serious. Can the hall save Japanese Animations future?

“From last year, the order depressed and assigned costs of production depressed as well. We used to contract with 18 million yen (200 thousands AU$), but now it prices 13 million yen (150 thousands AU$).” The producer Junichi Takagi talks. He works at famous Animation Production [GONZO]. He feels much about the plight of Animation Industry because his company is small as almost animation production are so.

The Animation picture has changed to miniature so it takes longer but the personnal expence does not change. Takagi said. “Not a few companies that doesn’t have resources have colapsed since last year.” And the Animator Shinji Sano -30 years old said, “I think it’s better to spend money for re-constructing of Animation Indstry instead of to construct the hall”

Japanese Animation Market has the peak 2005 to 2006 and then, the market has gone down.The sales of DVDs depressed because of there is another way which is using Internet.“I cannot spend money for my free time to enjoy…If I had the girlfriend, I cauld not marry... talks male animator who is 24 years old. He started Animation job 1 year ago, and his salary is still 70 thousands yen (10 thousands AU$).

http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20090629-00000054-mai-soci

In the research of Japan Animator/Director Union(JAniCA), the avarage of payment of 20age generation is approximately 110 million yen (130 thousands AU$) per a year. The turnover rate should be 80 to 90%. The main reason is  the outsourcing to another Asian countries. So it’s difficult to educate skilled young employees.

What will government do for this plight except Media Art General Centre? “The Animators needs grants.” says Vice-Professor of Kyoto Seika University Nobuyuki Tsuken(teaches the history of animation, 40 years old) .
He understands significance of the hall, but is still critical. He thinks that can be done without the power of government.

“It’s like a piece of sh**!!” Animator of [Gundom] Yoshikazu Yasuhiko (60 years old) said.
“Animation is strong like weed. I want to leave it for ourselves. If we comply the grant of government, they will controll us.”

On the other hand, there is agree opinion. JAniCa hand out of the recommendations as “the hall should be the institution of educating animation” at 23th to The Liberal-Democratic Party(the party as is main). They think about the criticisms are good placemark to keep peoples eyes on Animation. Daisuke Okeda (33 years old), audit director of the hall said, “we will educate at the special studio in the hall, they should be the selected young. And the visitor can see the process of making animations”

The agency reports saie that the hall will be to collect and display about the documents of animation. But it’s not fixed yet. The member of meeting about the hall, Tsunekazu Ishihara (the game creator,51 years old) told us “the budget of this project is 117 billion yen (1.2 billion AU$). It’s just equal to one Attraction in the Themepark.  It’s not enough to do many things.”

There is too many problems…Educating Animators ,Re-constructing Industories…anyway we want them not to waste it. Animator said.
“Yeah, we have just 5 or 10 years to educate young persons. If it has not done, the future of Japanese Animation will be noting.” said Okeda in JAniCA. We have no time, and the problems are big…
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20090629-00000054-mai-soci
3  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:03:08 ID:+Qj2JN2Z0
strike

4  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:03:21 ID:mmXrQEd60
Say it for f**kin TV sta

6  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:03:39 ID:av4JZUfH0
and advertisin agencies

8  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:04:04 ID:NDtO1INg0
this is not a problem of government, it is a problem of intermediate exploitation

9  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:04:05 ID:6RS1VU++P
what can they do about 117billion yen…

13  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:05:05 ID:mx5b3bB/0
>we want to re-construct industries as a government issue

No, firstly it needs to re- construct the system of broadcast

14  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:05:44 ID:0PgJN5R60
Anime Geek spent their 70thousands yen for Anime Goods per a month but…

15  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:05:50 ID:RgPsWg770
the salary of TV sta employees is too high

17  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:06:05 ID:4jNpHMR+0
they are stupid in this interviews…so they are expoited

20  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:06:35 ID:ZRgx0Vby0
the social system is something wrong in this country
it’s not a problem for only animator
22  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:06:52 ID:R3KkWgRN0
I dont have any girlfriend, though I earn 40 thousands yen in a month

24  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:07:23 ID:IyIgCpvV0
Give animators your money directly you Anime Geek!

28  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:08:05 ID:BVFYgwUw0
you can quit animators!

30  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:08:07 ID:a/DGtvoW0
It’s none of business of the hall of Animation..wwww…
it’s a business of TVsta and ADagency

33  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:08:37 ID:m4s+BfBu0
maybe, animator is the job which is not neccessary. that is why not paid.
when the animators died, if it’s still needed, people can pay

or you can refuse at the first time you contract with company

if you cannot, go to the judgement

35  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:09:04 ID:b5kGRdFi0
I don’t know how long they work, but if it’s more than 90hours, it’s less than the minimum payment…the government had better protect them

37  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:09:19 ID:YNcz3/TUO
the terms of animator, there is “live with family so they can take care of me”.
it’s too difficult to earn enough money to eat

38  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:09:25 ID:rZxozVjl0
if the costs of project rises, intermediate exploitation will stay there

40  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:09:28 ID:p9iOvN9v0
do something who is in Animation Industries!! refuse the contract of not much money!!

41  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:09:29 ID:k0jcWlmz0
it’s a business of him
quit the job
it’s much better to have a casual job in Convinience store

50  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:10:24 ID:VvViaibE0
or, there are too many animator who accept 70 thousands per month.

52  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:10:29 ID:TSGCVUi60
how to pour the money to the scene of animation?

can government pay for the people who is registered as animator?

56  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:10:53 ID:hj4YdDeK0
don’t speak like this, you animator are just one year experience there…
give up or stand
every techniq job are same

61  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:11:15 ID:1MYvIjshO
it’s a joke wwwwwwww
can you have a girl friend? wwwwwwww

65  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:11:39 ID:h+ItJV+Q0
no need animations
it’s good for you that your salary is 70 thousands

66  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:11:40 ID:rgqNEiAi0
you never have a girl friend

67  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:11:43 ID:hpghkeE10
you have to command yourself, if you dont want exploitation any more

70  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:11:59 ID:GvPqyBjgO
it relies on China and Korea about animator but there are too many voice actors

This is the Animation Kingdom Japan

71  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:12:02 ID:SZvjjKZXO
they said Japanimation is represent, but the production outsourcing to China and Korea…they have to protect more

74  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:12:36 ID:Gnl3qqKiP
If the fovernment pay for animation, intermediate exploitation will hang it again.
it’s Japan

78  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:12:57 ID:D7bu4MAR0
maybe they want to say that the government has to create the system of avoiding exploit

80  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:13:26 ID:FtKHQfvm0
It’s internet age, so they can earn money by internet
if it’s so good, consumer will pay

86  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:13:47 ID:w16XJc5l0
>”I cannot spend money for my free time to enjoy…If I had the girlfriend, I cauld not marry…”

in no way for you. you can just support Anime Geek
and make more Girls Animetion wwwww

87  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:13:55 ID:BksDw/tR0
say it to TV sta

96  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:14:18 ID:20OHi1Bl0
Your income will be set depends on the requirement and supplyment.
If it turns to a big business, world can pay you

98  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:14:26 ID:fYXL6SdV0
He means to spend 100 billion constantly!?
how much will it be?
It’s painful job to creat the culture as well

104  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:15:00 ID:e/KJYqj/O
If you got money from the government, you will not able to make Animation on the way what you like

107  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:15:19 ID:eTVXNyLx0
You have selected your favorite job unless you cannot earn enough and cannot get married, aren’t you?

108  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:15:20 ID:DJLkJwSy0
The Big name Animator could take care more

110  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:15:30 ID:Z4IeGRH10
The system of exploit

174  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:20:50 ID:ano8Jdjf0
>>110
Really? kidding!

529  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:48:00 ID:Bwj4iaFZ0
>>110
>>174
Seriously

113  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:15:39 ID:n+nXHz7MO
they are stupid.

118  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:16:12 ID:1MS9ofrc0
Anyway, prepare the foods and househood

Oh, no need! they can stay at workplace

120  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:16:13 ID:Lvo1aM1NO
The enployment for animator must be going illegal…
it’s not the way to pay cheaper to apply the performance payment

149  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:18:36 ID:ny5ZamD10
>>120
It’s not for animator nowadays
technical jobs are same. they are not paid per hour

121  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:16:20 ID:vmnZcJRx0
create more Erotic and Lolitic, so you can earn more from Anime Geeks
ordinaly people must leave then…

123  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:16:31 ID:ivbWpwrpO
basically constructing art museum, the government doesn’t have to pay animator.
it’s completely different

132  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:17:12 ID:3VqbDAKk0
The hall of Animation

Animation will be quorified

Animator will get better

Income increase

Oh, it had better to construct the hall!

141  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:17:41 ID:qJXv3xwA0
The only thing the government has to do is to regurate the labor and intermediate exploitation
No money

143  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:17:51 ID:ntEgCnwuO
The advertisement agencys are monopolizing too much

161  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:19:55 ID:AjCj0QiX0
well, it’s a system of bullying undertakers…
Do regurate the TV station
TV station which doesn’t pay for Animation is not guilty

162  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:20:05 ID:3s5NFlli0
It seems never good animation in the future, so it doesn’t matter with me

163  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:20:11 ID:v6dyRydE0
I know what Yasuhiko is talking about.
It doesn’t make sense to complaint the government by Sub-culture
but I guess they don’t have any space to think about that

169  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:20:36 ID:TyDOwdKlO
Yes, it’s just a system.
It’s different from the future of Animation

For example, it’s a problem that there are many Painter who cannot earn much money.
they talk about that not to construct the art museum but pay money

190  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:22:32 ID:LUBEw6Fm0
>>169
In the museum at overseas, Artists offten can earn money from funds of museum

175  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:21:05 ID:7Uk8RwDR0
Animator will take place to Asian people

178  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:21:36 ID:Gevb13+G0
Is there a way to do something by the government only?
why don’t they have some strike?

there is nothing the connection of Animators…
so then, they are exploited

180  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:21:40 ID:Z//GC2jH0
Different
The payment of workers is the problem of Ministry of Labor
They have to speak to Ministry of Labor.
Ministry of Culture doesn’t care about it

234  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:25:11 ID:LUBEw6Fm0
>>180
It’s not make sense
For example, except for Media Art festival which is held by Ministry of Culture, they can make a system of supporting Animator who is expectable.

191  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:22:32 ID:fYXL6SdV0
I don’t want the su*ks TV shows, let’s turn them over to animation

195  : no name @ 10th anniversary : 2009/06/29(Mon) 15:22:40 ID:wB6wwnti0
Actually animator wants to say something to Advertisement Agencies, but it’s scared…

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